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		<title>By: CHARIS SHALOM &#187; Prayer Changes Me</title>
		<link>http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2008/03/listen-to-his-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-5202</link>
		<dc:creator>CHARIS SHALOM &#187; Prayer Changes Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] As I fell asleep last night I had the sense that God was revealing something to me about prayer. I&#8217;ve written many times about prayer and about hearing His voice. Some of those writings can be found by clicking here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] As I fell asleep last night I had the sense that God was revealing something to me about prayer. I&#8217;ve written many times about prayer and about hearing His voice. Some of those writings can be found by clicking here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2008/03/listen-to-his-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-2907</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 02:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For real life stories of people who have been encouraged by hearing the voice of God check out
www.godandemail.com
Blessings
~Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For real life stories of people who have been encouraged by hearing the voice of God check out<br />
<a href="http://www.godandemail.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.godandemail.com</a><br />
Blessings<br />
~Mark</p>
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		<title>By: STEVENSON MARANGA</title>
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		<dc:creator>STEVENSON MARANGA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 07:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iam very happy with this great message.Only that i need you to come here in Kenya and share with ouir ministry plus the rest of the People.We will be having a gig meeting next Month so please ,this is time ti give meat in due season as our redeemer said in the book of Matt, chapter 24.We hopefuly look to hear  fromyou.
Ev,
Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iam very happy with this great message.Only that i need you to come here in Kenya and share with ouir ministry plus the rest of the People.We will be having a gig meeting next Month so please ,this is time ti give meat in due season as our redeemer said in the book of Matt, chapter 24.We hopefuly look to hear  fromyou.<br />
Ev,<br />
Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 09:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not sure how anything I&#039;ve said would indicate otherwise... but i believe God works in and through all things and He often reveals to me the reasons why He is doing things. 

But, again, what is knowledge?    And yes, doctrine is fully revealed in Jesus.  So, how does that impact your theology of being a Jesus follower and doctrine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure how anything I&#8217;ve said would indicate otherwise&#8230; but i believe God works in and through all things and He often reveals to me the reasons why He is doing things. </p>
<p>But, again, what is knowledge?    And yes, doctrine is fully revealed in Jesus.  So, how does that impact your theology of being a Jesus follower and doctrine?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Twitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Twitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that we need to know has been revealed... you missed this?

So, no, all the things that have been given we have been given to know.

Does that mean that God does not work in secret ways? Of course not, or you would never have been born again.

If you want to speak of knowledge you&#039;ll have to be more specific. If it is all we need to know about doctrine and living, then it has been fully revealed in Christ. He is the end of all revelation, &quot;For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.&quot;

What is it that you do not know? Do you need to know it? How do you get it? Are really the questions that need to be asked.

Try this Riley. If you trust in God, are the things that you do done in faith? And, if they are, do you trust him to orchestrate your life prior to your knowing what you need to know, such as where you need to study next? Not to say that you should not pray. But, whether you hear or not, are you trusting in him in spite of your assurance that what you are doing is his will? This is the true assurance of the faith. Not that you in and of yourself know, but that the Word of God is revealed in you by his Spirit, so that what ever you are doing it is by the Spirit that it is done, John 3.21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God, and Phillipians 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.

Do you believe that God is working all things, or just some things?


Work that out and get back to me.

&lt;em&gt;Thomas Twitchell&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://thomastwitchell.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/packer%e2%80%99s-first-point-%c2%ab-2-worlds-collide/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Packer’s First Point « 2 Worlds Collide&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that we need to know has been revealed&#8230; you missed this?</p>
<p>So, no, all the things that have been given we have been given to know.</p>
<p>Does that mean that God does not work in secret ways? Of course not, or you would never have been born again.</p>
<p>If you want to speak of knowledge you&#8217;ll have to be more specific. If it is all we need to know about doctrine and living, then it has been fully revealed in Christ. He is the end of all revelation, &#8220;For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.&#8221;</p>
<p>What is it that you do not know? Do you need to know it? How do you get it? Are really the questions that need to be asked.</p>
<p>Try this Riley. If you trust in God, are the things that you do done in faith? And, if they are, do you trust him to orchestrate your life prior to your knowing what you need to know, such as where you need to study next? Not to say that you should not pray. But, whether you hear or not, are you trusting in him in spite of your assurance that what you are doing is his will? This is the true assurance of the faith. Not that you in and of yourself know, but that the Word of God is revealed in you by his Spirit, so that what ever you are doing it is by the Spirit that it is done, John 3.21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God, and Phillipians 2:12-13 Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure.</p>
<p>Do you believe that God is working all things, or just some things?</p>
<p>Work that out and get back to me.</p>
<p><em>Thomas Twitchell&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://thomastwitchell.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/packer%e2%80%99s-first-point-%c2%ab-2-worlds-collide/' rel="nofollow">Packer’s First Point « 2 Worlds Collide</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, there are no more &quot;secret&quot; things like it talks of in Deuteronomy 29:29 and we can know all things now?  Or, we can  know all God wants us to know, but there are still some things that He hasn&#039;t revealed and won&#039;t on this side of Heaven?  

And what knowledge are we talking about?  How do you define ginosko?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, there are no more &#8220;secret&#8221; things like it talks of in Deuteronomy 29:29 and we can know all things now?  Or, we can  know all God wants us to know, but there are still some things that He hasn&#8217;t revealed and won&#8217;t on this side of Heaven?  </p>
<p>And what knowledge are we talking about?  How do you define ginosko?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Twitchell</title>
		<link>http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2008/03/listen-to-his-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-1790</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Twitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. All that we need to know has been revealed. There are numerous Scriptures that can be sited. That we as indivduals do not know is another story.

&lt;em&gt;Thomas Twitchell&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://thomastwitchell.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/packer%e2%80%99s-first-point-%c2%ab-2-worlds-collide/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Packer’s First Point « 2 Worlds Collide&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. All that we need to know has been revealed. There are numerous Scriptures that can be sited. That we as indivduals do not know is another story.</p>
<p><em>Thomas Twitchell&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://thomastwitchell.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/packer%e2%80%99s-first-point-%c2%ab-2-worlds-collide/' rel="nofollow">Packer’s First Point « 2 Worlds Collide</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Riley</title>
		<link>http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2008/03/listen-to-his-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-1788</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question:  Given the fact you see there are many interpretations in the area of spiritual gifts and God&#039;s voice today, does that mean you are willing to admit that there are areas of what you would call doctrine that aren&#039;t clear or revealed fully yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question:  Given the fact you see there are many interpretations in the area of spiritual gifts and God&#8217;s voice today, does that mean you are willing to admit that there are areas of what you would call doctrine that aren&#8217;t clear or revealed fully yet?</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Twitchell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Twitchell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God does speak to us, most definitely. &quot;Today if you hear his voice...&quot; I trust that you did as I did.

I am an continuationist/cessationist. I do not hardline the operations of the Spirit as some do. I subject my knowledge to Scripture and find fault with both camps. I have often asked, &quot;How does John MacArthur know he was called to the ministry.&quot; See, he is a hard cessationist, but that line of reasoning fails to account for the knowledge that we have as believers, doesn&#039;t it?

I have very serious reservations about certain claims made by anyone when the say, &quot;God told me.&quot; As I tried to explain, and you seem to understand, our only recourse is Scripture for discernment. Time will tell us of the rest. We pray for wisdom, and God grants it as he sees fit for us. The Word says so, so we seek and it is opened. Anyone acknowledging that then we can go to Scripture with to find out if these things are true.

And, I thought that I had answered you point in my long winded way. It does not matter if we have that small voice that says go here. You would not believe the times I have heard cessationist claim God&#039;s leading and still deny it. What we do, is just go, if that is what you are willing to do, by faith. If you go you go, if you do not you do not, and leave the driving to God. He knows what he is doing in your life even when you question, &quot;Lord what would you have me study.&quot; The question we should be asking when we hear such a voice leading us, is &quot;Do I trust God.&quot; This of course assumes that what you are about to do is good.

You ask, &quot;Why do we pray?&quot; When Romans say you do not know how to pray, how then would you know by praying anyway? True prayer does not originate in us which accounts for why not all prayers are answered according to the words we pray. But, we know that God has also said that we should and that we should ask for those things which he has instructed us in. However, when it comes down to it 1 Corinthians 12 is still in effect. If it is love, it is done by the Spirit, for God has shed abroad in our hearts his love. He gives the gifts, and he operates them through us and that includes prayer. If by the Spirit it is true and without confusion, and we can have confidence that the things we ask will be done and work in us and for us for our good.

&lt;em&gt;Thomas Twitchell&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://thomastwitchell.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/packer%e2%80%99s-first-point-%c2%ab-2-worlds-collide/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Packer’s First Point « 2 Worlds Collide&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God does speak to us, most definitely. &#8220;Today if you hear his voice&#8230;&#8221; I trust that you did as I did.</p>
<p>I am an continuationist/cessationist. I do not hardline the operations of the Spirit as some do. I subject my knowledge to Scripture and find fault with both camps. I have often asked, &#8220;How does John MacArthur know he was called to the ministry.&#8221; See, he is a hard cessationist, but that line of reasoning fails to account for the knowledge that we have as believers, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>I have very serious reservations about certain claims made by anyone when the say, &#8220;God told me.&#8221; As I tried to explain, and you seem to understand, our only recourse is Scripture for discernment. Time will tell us of the rest. We pray for wisdom, and God grants it as he sees fit for us. The Word says so, so we seek and it is opened. Anyone acknowledging that then we can go to Scripture with to find out if these things are true.</p>
<p>And, I thought that I had answered you point in my long winded way. It does not matter if we have that small voice that says go here. You would not believe the times I have heard cessationist claim God&#8217;s leading and still deny it. What we do, is just go, if that is what you are willing to do, by faith. If you go you go, if you do not you do not, and leave the driving to God. He knows what he is doing in your life even when you question, &#8220;Lord what would you have me study.&#8221; The question we should be asking when we hear such a voice leading us, is &#8220;Do I trust God.&#8221; This of course assumes that what you are about to do is good.</p>
<p>You ask, &#8220;Why do we pray?&#8221; When Romans say you do not know how to pray, how then would you know by praying anyway? True prayer does not originate in us which accounts for why not all prayers are answered according to the words we pray. But, we know that God has also said that we should and that we should ask for those things which he has instructed us in. However, when it comes down to it 1 Corinthians 12 is still in effect. If it is love, it is done by the Spirit, for God has shed abroad in our hearts his love. He gives the gifts, and he operates them through us and that includes prayer. If by the Spirit it is true and without confusion, and we can have confidence that the things we ask will be done and work in us and for us for our good.</p>
<p><em>Thomas Twitchell&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://thomastwitchell.wordpress.com/2008/03/26/packer%e2%80%99s-first-point-%c2%ab-2-worlds-collide/' rel="nofollow">Packer’s First Point « 2 Worlds Collide</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Riley</title>
		<link>http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2008/03/listen-to-his-voice/comment-page-1/#comment-1783</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, i mean 1 Thess... typo.  Or just thinking about being a new creation or something.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, i mean 1 Thess&#8230; typo.  Or just thinking about being a new creation or something.  <img src='http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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