25th Mar, 2007

Hermeneutics and the Holy Spirit or is it Hermeneutics Versus the Holy Spirit?

Hermeneutics, a word I really am not familiar with because I have not been seminary trained, apparently is little more than “a method or principle of interpretation.” Thus, it is an approach or a method for interpreting text. At first thought, it does seem important to be somewhat consistent in one’s approach to the text that is the Bible, especially as it involves a book written over thousands of years, in different languages, by different human authors, and which has been translated numerous times.

In response to a recent post, David Rogers, wrote this about the Holy Spirit’s guidance in the midst of biblical interpretation:

Yes, I believe the Holy Spirit continues to guide us today in ways that are not strictly interpretation of the Bible. As Guy [Muse] has pointed out, He guided the early believers who did not have access to the entire canon of Scripture, and He still guides illiterate people, and Christians, who, for whatever reason, do not have complete access to the Bible today.

But, He will never ever contradict what is written in the Bible. And the Spirit will never lead us to interpret the Bible in a way that goes against plain common sense sound hermeneutics. Neither can we as believers totally submitted to the Lordship of Christ have an attitude of independence toward God’s revelation in the Bible, as if we were able to understand God’s direction adequately without it. We need the Bible. And we must continually compare and contrast our understanding of what we believe the Spirit is showing us with what a sound interpretation of Holy Scripture really says.

In response to this comment, I had the following thoughts, because I really am trying to understand the balance of the intellect and the guidance of the Holy Spirit:

I’m not sure I agree. I think walking by faith sometimes defies common sense. Nothing about turning the other cheek, going the extra mile, giving to anyone who asks, selling all you have or those sorts of things make common sense at least not as the world would define it. I also don’t know what sound hermeneutics are and when people start using that term I often feel like Charlie Brown listening to the teacher. I know I’ve never read a verse of scripture that says use sound hermeneutics to read this.

I’m not trying to be disrespectful or cute… I am asking for someone (and especially you) to help me out with this.

As I think about this further, these thoughts come to mind. “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” 1 Corinthians 2:14. “If any of you lacks wisdom, he should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to him. But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt, because he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind.” James 1:5-6. Brothers, think of what you were when you were called. Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were influential; not many were of noble birth. But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. He chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things—and the things that are not—to nullify the things that are, so that no one may boast before him. It is because of him that you are in Christ Jesus, who has become for us wisdom from God—that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption. Therefore, as it is written: “Let him who boasts boast in the Lord.” 1 Corinthians 1:26-31.

Furthermore, we are told to live by the Spirit and God tells us, “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the LORD. “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.” Isaiah 55:8-9. Or what about this verse: “Not by might, nor by power, but by my Spirit, says the LORD of hosts. Zechariah 4:6b.

Given the fact we know our natural minds and ways are finite and His ways are infinite, how is it that we would believe that developing a man-made methodology would truly help us in understanding the mind of God? Or, is it because I simply do not know what “hermeneutics” mean that I am misunderstanding this? I would be interested in hearing from both professionals and lay persons on how these verses and these concepts bounce around in the mind and spirit.

Also, if you are interested in other ideas about the Holy Spirit on the blogosphere, and really have time to read a few other writers, I’ve noticed a few others writing about this of late: Dan Edelen of Cerulean Sanctum, Grace of Emerging Grace, Brother Maynard of Subversive Influence, and Michael Spencer, the Internet Monk. Perhaps there is a reason this has been resounding about the net.

As a final note, our family leaves for our Discipleship Training School at the King’s Lodge in England in four days. We will be out of the country for over five months. We are incredibly busy packing. I may not be around as much in the next week, but I hope that many will have time to ponder these thoughts. If you are new to the blog, I hope you can also go back and read some of the earlier posts on the Holy Spirit as well.

Responses

I wonder what it means that at least 50% of the world’s population is illiterate. I also wonder what it means that the Scriptures were primarily communicated orally throughout most of history, including Biblical history and that when God spoke to Abraham and Moses and the apostle Paul he sometimes did it through a medium other than the Bible.

Just wondering.

Me, too, Paul. Some might say that even such wonder is rabblerousing. :)

Let them eat cake.

But perhaps that is why the Church is growing more in those places where illiteracy is higher? I’m just wondering, too.

Bryan,

I believe the following passages tell us something of the need and practice of hermeneutics in biblical times…

Nehemiah 5:5-8

And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people;) and when he opened it, all the people stood up: And Ezra blessed the LORD, the great God. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the LORD with their faces to the ground. Also Jeshua, and Bani, and Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodijah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, and the Levites, caused the people to understand the law: and the people stood in their place. So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.

2 Peter 3:15-16

Bear in mind that our Lord’s patience means salvation, just as our dear brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom that God gave him. He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.

Yes, it is true that the Holy Spirit enlightens our understanding. But it is also true that “ignorant and unstable” people sometime, under the guise of being inspired by the Spirit, “distort” the Scriptures “to their own destruction.” Thus, there is a need to “read in the book in the law of God distinctly,” “give the sense,” and “understand the reading.”

Hermeneutics involves understanding something of the original cultural context in which the words were written. It involves understanding the rules of grammar of the languages in which the text was originally written. It involves, for us who accept the supernatural inspiration of the Bible, the principle that God, as the author of all of the Bible, does not contradict Himself, and therefore, we can use the Bible to interpret the Bible. More clear and easier to understand passages shed light on less clear and more difficult to understand passages. It involves reading specific texts in the context in which they are found.

Perhaps the term “common sense” in what I said earlier may have been a bit misleading. However, I believe that the Spirit will not lead us to stretch what the text says, or “read into” the text creative meanings that go beyond the natural sense of the words, as the original writers and readers would have understood them.

I do not believe any of this excludes the role of the Holy Spirit in helping us to understand the text. But it does help us to avoid excessive subjectivity, and the danger of drifting into false doctrine under the guise of the Spirit’s guidance.

Does the OT passage really help us as it involves a time when there wasn’t a general outpouring of the Holy Spirit?

And, although people may distort things, isn’t that where we bear responsibility to test the spirits?

I agree wholeheartedly that the bible must be used to help one interpret the bible. I agree with the fact that God inspired the scripture and that God will not contradict God.

I just wonder if human hermeneutics actually causes more excessive subjectivity than true Spirit-filled living and whether human hermeneutics have in part anesthetized people from truly seeking to understand scripture in the Spirit.

Bryan: I believe there was a general outpouring of the HS in the OT. In fact I see it as not much different than the NT. It’s just that at Pentecost, the gospel was for all not just the Jews. I believe the OT interprets the NT.

BTW I don’t believe sound hermeneutics(yes I’ve known about the word for quite a while) to be human but spirit led. The Bible was written in the first century and should be read and studied in this context.

Debbie, I’ve never done a full blown personal study of the Spirit in the OT, but what you say above goes against everything I have ever been taught.

I’ve never said you shouldn’t study the Bible in its historical context, but many “conservative” bible readers often argue against a strict historical reading. But, I think more important than any human method, we must rely on the Holy Spirit and the Word itself to allow God to reveal the scriptures to us.

I always thought hermeneutics sounded like a henpecked husband with an odd surname.

Seriously, Joseph Garlington said “The bible is the oldest book in the world, whose Author is still alive”. There are many times in Robert Ludlum’s or Tom Clancy’s books that I’d like to call them and ask them what was going on. Well, with the bible, we can.

That’s my “hermeneutics”.

Debbie, I’ve never done a full blown personal study of the Spirit in the OT, but what you say above goes against everything I have ever been taught.

This would be a whole nother post. But I have done a study as well, not independantly and I’m sure it’s beyond what most have been taught. But it’s there. Just a teaser. Salvation in the OT and the NT are the same. There were not two ways, one for the OT and one for those in the NT. It was all about Christ. In fact that is the way to look at both OT and NT. All point to Christ. The OT just believed in a Christ future.

Debbie, I agree salvation was the same.

Bob, fantastic comment….the soundest hermeneutics of all… listening for the voice of our Daddy.

I read that same passage in Nehemiah last night. I thought about a time recently, when my pastor began to read the scriptures prior to preaching. It was a long text in Philippians. As he read, I was overwhelmed with the power and presence of God. This is what I saw in this text. Understanding-seeing God, who He is, what He is, seeing the I AM at work in us, in order to be on mission with Him. I think perhaps the church in general underestimates the power of the scriptures ability to knock us off our donkey and change us forever.
After reading that text last night-I found myself with eager anticipation of hearing Roy read the text this Sunday and waiting to see the miraculous power of the Holy Spirit as He gives understanding.

Bryan,

The hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church claims to have the inspiration of the Holy Spirit as a basis for the interpretations they give to the Bible. So do most of the false cults. How do we determine who is truly inspired by the Holy Spirit in their interpretation?

I’ve more or less always believed that one of the elements of good hermeneutics was relying on the guidance of the Holy Spirit in reading and studying the scripture. The academic examination and reasoning, applied to the scripture, is a human effort. It might be a good effort, it might even be a great one, but it is still a human one.

David’s question is an excellent one. How do we determine who is truly inspired by the Holy Spirit in their interpretation? I John 4:1-3. The Spirit that declares Jesus is the Christ. It’s the rock testimony of Peter about Jesus in Matthew 16, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Does the Spirit lead them to make that confession? That’s the test.

David, Lee gives a great response. It is difficult to know. There also is a spiritual gift called discernment and we are told to test the spirits. I think we simply continue to submit ourselves to the Lord and listen carefully, allowing Him to show us. And, yes, of course, the written revelation enables that as well because as we have all noted, God will not contradict Himself/His Nature/His Word.

I did not know that the RCC claimed that. I find it interesting and ironic. It seems that those who would demand strict adherence to a set doctrine as the one and only “sound doctrine” would be more like the RCC than those who believe more in the doctrines of grace.

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