Comments on: Boo! Are We Scared of the Holy Ghost? http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/ A family, following Jesus, praying we will pave paths others will follow into a missional lifestyle Sat, 20 Feb 2010 07:46:28 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: bryan riley http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-519 bryan riley Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:45:22 +0000 http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/15/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/#comment-519 Thanks, Josh. I was wondering if you had some more to add to the latest post? Thanks, Josh. I was wondering if you had some more to add to the latest post?

]]> By: Josh http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-494 Josh Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:13:46 +0000 http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/15/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/#comment-494 Bryan I think you've hit on something there--simply that it works when Christians live and do within the bounds of scripture. I'm going to say that God will bless that every time. Josh "...the word of God is not <a href="http://unbound.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">bound</a>." --2 Timothy 2:9 Bryan I think you’ve hit on something there–simply that it works when Christians live and do within the bounds of scripture. I’m going to say that God will bless that every time.

Josh
“…the word of God is not bound.”
–2 Timothy 2:9

]]> By: bryan riley http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-470 bryan riley Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:12:22 +0000 http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/15/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/#comment-470 But that still leaves the everyday decisions of life to something. And, with the Holy Spirit, I believe we have a guide and comforter. And I believe God's voice keeps speaking and speaking and guiding and directing. I know that my walk has become so much more comforting and anxiety free as I begin to lay all my decisions at my feet. People want to say... Oh no, you're crazy. How could you ever make a decision. I think it is better to turn all my anxious thoughts into prayers. I spend as much time thinking as I ever would praying about things, so why not spend more time in conversation with the love of my life. But that still leaves the everyday decisions of life to something. And, with the Holy Spirit, I believe we have a guide and comforter. And I believe God’s voice keeps speaking and speaking and guiding and directing. I know that my walk has become so much more comforting and anxiety free as I begin to lay all my decisions at my feet.

People want to say… Oh no, you’re crazy. How could you ever make a decision. I think it is better to turn all my anxious thoughts into prayers. I spend as much time thinking as I ever would praying about things, so why not spend more time in conversation with the love of my life.

]]> By: Dorcas Hawker http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-469 Dorcas Hawker Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:42:11 +0000 http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/15/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/#comment-469 Okay, this has been a fun discussion. I think we have come full circle because the point about objective and subjective was in the quote I gave five days ago from Pinnock. Of course, I suppose Alan said it in plain English. :) Thanks for stretching my brain and challenging me to grow in my faith guys. Okay, this has been a fun discussion. I think we have come full circle because the point about objective and subjective was in the quote I gave five days ago from Pinnock. Of course, I suppose Alan said it in plain English. :)

Thanks for stretching my brain and challenging me to grow in my faith guys.

]]> By: bryan riley http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-468 bryan riley Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:20:14 +0000 http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/15/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/#comment-468 Our plumb line! Our plumb line!

]]> By: bryan riley http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-467 bryan riley Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:45:34 +0000 http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/15/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/#comment-467 Yes, Alan, Guy, that's what I mean by the bible is our standard. Perfect! Good stuff! Yes, Alan, Guy, that’s what I mean by the bible is our standard. Perfect! Good stuff!

]]> By: Guy Muse http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-466 Guy Muse Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:39:04 +0000 http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/15/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/#comment-466 Alan, This is a great quote from you, "The Bible is the objective rule by which we judge our subjective relationship with God." I'll have to remember that one! Alan,

This is a great quote from you, “The Bible is the objective rule by which we judge our subjective relationship with God.” I’ll have to remember that one!

]]> By: Alan Cross http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-465 Alan Cross Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:27:33 +0000 http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/15/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/#comment-465 Bryan, you said, "I just don’t think that because some may freeze up worrying that we should scare them away from listening for the voice of God. " I don't either. Please read what I'm saying. I am just saying that it is an issue that needs to be incorporated into our teaching and discipleship. Some folks respond to these abuses and run the other direction. Other people just throw the doors wide open to any and every voice, and amazing confusion results. I'm not advocating either. I DO think that God speaks to our hearts, separate, but never in contrast to the Bible. The Bible is the objective rule by which we judge our subjective relationship with God. It is a gift from Him to guide and illuminate our very active relationship with Him. I just think that as apostles (missionaries), prophets, evangelists, and pastors and teachers, we need to help people learn how to discern God's voice, how to obey God's Word, and how to follow the voice of the Shepherd. It comes more easily for some, but other folks struggle with it, and in pastoral ministry I have seen that. You don't throw out the truth, but you do help people learn how to apply it and live it out. There is just very little teaching or guidance on hearing the voice of God today, and all kinds of problems result. Again, don't throw away the teaching, just help apply it to people's lives so they walk rightly. That is rarely done, either because of fear, ignorance, energy, or time. Bryan, you said, “I just don’t think that because some may freeze up worrying that we should scare them away from listening for the voice of God. ”

I don’t either. Please read what I’m saying. I am just saying that it is an issue that needs to be incorporated into our teaching and discipleship. Some folks respond to these abuses and run the other direction. Other people just throw the doors wide open to any and every voice, and amazing confusion results. I’m not advocating either. I DO think that God speaks to our hearts, separate, but never in contrast to the Bible. The Bible is the objective rule by which we judge our subjective relationship with God. It is a gift from Him to guide and illuminate our very active relationship with Him. I just think that as apostles (missionaries), prophets, evangelists, and pastors and teachers, we need to help people learn how to discern God’s voice, how to obey God’s Word, and how to follow the voice of the Shepherd. It comes more easily for some, but other folks struggle with it, and in pastoral ministry I have seen that. You don’t throw out the truth, but you do help people learn how to apply it and live it out. There is just very little teaching or guidance on hearing the voice of God today, and all kinds of problems result.

Again, don’t throw away the teaching, just help apply it to people’s lives so they walk rightly. That is rarely done, either because of fear, ignorance, energy, or time.

]]> By: Bryan Riley http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-464 Bryan Riley Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:25:20 +0000 http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/15/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/#comment-464 Dorcas, I didn't know if you were saying that or not, but I think a lot of people think that because they are taught that Jesus is the Word. And, for most, including me most of my life, the Word was the 66 books in my bible. I still really would like to hear someone who has studied it talk about the meaning, from their perspective, of the use of the word, word of God, throughout the bible. Alan, good words. We all need to be discipled and make disciples. I just don't think that because some may freeze up worrying that we should scare them away from listening for the voice of God. Frankly, I'm scared to live like I used to anymore and definitely pray for God's grace to keep me drawing nearer to Him and to keep opening my spiritual eyes and ears more and more every day. Dorcas, I didn’t know if you were saying that or not, but I think a lot of people think that because they are taught that Jesus is the Word. And, for most, including me most of my life, the Word was the 66 books in my bible.

I still really would like to hear someone who has studied it talk about the meaning, from their perspective, of the use of the word, word of God, throughout the bible.

Alan, good words. We all need to be discipled and make disciples. I just don’t think that because some may freeze up worrying that we should scare them away from listening for the voice of God. Frankly, I’m scared to live like I used to anymore and definitely pray for God’s grace to keep me drawing nearer to Him and to keep opening my spiritual eyes and ears more and more every day.

]]> By: Bryan Riley http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/comment-page-1/#comment-462 Bryan Riley Tue, 20 Mar 2007 03:18:01 +0000 http://charisshalom.fjministries.com/2007/03/15/boo-are-we-scared-of-the-holy-ghost/#comment-462 I wonder if as Christians, who have the mind of Christ, who are new creations, who are filled with the Holy spirit, if we should stop wondering if we are making stuff up to suit our own desires, fears or ambitions, and live in the reality of His kingdom now, and that if it isn't in conflict with the written Word move ahead with the confidence that it is from God. Note: I am wondering. Not Stating. Reactions to that wonder? I wonder if as Christians, who have the mind of Christ, who are new creations, who are filled with the Holy spirit, if we should stop wondering if we are making stuff up to suit our own desires, fears or ambitions, and live in the reality of His kingdom now, and that if it isn’t in conflict with the written Word move ahead with the confidence that it is from God.

Note: I am wondering. Not Stating. Reactions to that wonder?

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